Hello, today I registered to this group just to see if there is someone listening and if I probably find answers to some of my questions. I found Music/SP and the SIM390 emulator in 2011 and I took the Stanford Pascal compiler from there and converted it into a much larger and more powerful product, called the New Stanford Pascal compiler. The original compiler had 6.000 lines, and the new compiler today has 26.000 lines. The new compiler is part of the VMCE distribution, and it works with VM, MVS and with Windows, Unix, Linux, OS/2 etc., because I ported it to the non-mainframe platforms in 2016. I did not really use Music/SP from 2011 until today, because I did not manage to get it running with Hercules, and the SIM390 solution seemed too insecure for me ... until today; today I finally managed to get Music/SP running with Hercules. Now Hercules in my environment runs VM/370, MVS and MUSIC/SP and (someday hopefully) VSE. The Pascal compiler on my Music/SP system is still the old 1982 variant which was only corrected a little bit by Dave Edwards in 2007. But it is very different from the actual New Stanford 2023.01 variant. Here are some informations regarding the new compiler: http://bernd-oppolzer.de/job9.htm I would like to send the new compiler back to Music/SP, if there is some interest in THIS community. Now for the start some questions: I enter Music/SP as user $000 with a modified password; when I look into the file system, I see files in directory $000 and in directory $PSC (Pascal), if I specify the directory name in the FLIB command. I know, that there are other directories, for example $ADM for APL. But: where do I get a list of ALL the directories on the system? And maybe a map of used space vs. free space etc.? Thank you very much in advance for your help, kind regards Bernd

Does anyone have an old MUG tape laying around? I have some stuff on it, that I would like to get back. Our site was big supporter of the MUSIC Users Group at NOVA , and for a while we managed the content and wrote the submit/extract utilities for it. Thank you! -Ed

I am trying to port over a server program in "C", to MUSIC/SP using WATC In the AR guide, part-3 page 228, the following is referenced: .If you wish to code socket application in C, you must include a call to CARGENV (no parameters required) in order to cause the socket routines to automatically convert the arguments passed to assembler calling conventions. In this case, use the normal C calling conventions as defined by the SOCKET.HDR header file. I can find NO reference anyway else about CARGENV. and of course by server program will not work on MUSIC/SP. Any direction or info on how to use or where to find info on CARGENV, would be very helpful. Thank You Tom c

Hello, I am just wondering why you would need a mainframe app to manage your music when there are plenty PC related apps that works so well and proven already by millions. I hope you do not take this the wrong way.. I am not here to advise you one way or another, I am just trying to understand the advantages. Thank you in advance. shaf

Greetings all I am a total noob at MUSIC and I am trying to install the updates before I start playing around and I haven't been able to get it to work correctly. I am using the FTP method onto Sim390 and then when I am done I am going to run it through Hercules. The FTP part works without a hitch and the checksums match but when I run APPLYUPD this is what I get: applyupd *In progress Enter the name of the MUSIC update to be applied, for example misc7 ? fort2pl1 This procedure will apply update fort2pl1 to your MUSIC system. You can reply /cancel to exit at any time. Is this update contained in a UDS file (a UDS volume)? ? n Using archive file fort2pl1.arc ** The archive file does not exist or cannot be read. Update not applied *End *Go I have also tried it with the .mfarc extension but still to no avail. Also, to be honest, I'm not even sure what a UDS volume is, but I have tried that method too. Any help would be appreciated but please be gentle. :-) Thanks Ray

Hi, I play around with MUSIC/SP for my own purposes. I was wondering if it's possible to change the MUSIC logon splash. I dug around its filesystem but can't find anything that controls the login screen. Any ideas on how this can be done?

Does anyone have a pdf/txt version of a reference manual for watc. any cheat sheets, etc. It would be most helpful and I am trying to port gcc "C" programes over to watc. Thank You tom c

PILOT, the programming language has been ported over to run via MUSIC/SP. It can be found at: https://github.com/tchandler48/muspilot Cheers Tom C

Since MUSIC/APL was based on the Type III "free" and non-copyrighted copy of APL from IBM, if any has it, can a copy be added to MUSIC-SP? -- William Gallant

The only Windows computer i have is an old Dell Latitude D830 with Windows 10. The graphics inside the Dell Latitude is not good enough for the MAME facility with the HP3000 emulator and the HP APL terminal software. ( error message about Direct3D or something ) Any hints on what to do? -- William Gallant

I have put up on github a port of bxbasic to music/sp. Source, job streams, example, and pdf documentation is available. it is located at github.com/tchandler48/musbasic comments welcome. Cheers Tom c

I’m stealing these. J Tuck away for when I finally think of a good project to utilize it. -------- Original message -------- From: René Ferland <ferland.rene@...> Date: 12/30/20 13:23 (GMT-05:00) To: H390-MUSIC@groups.io Subject: Re: [H390-MUSIC] watc screen functions Hello Tom, My own TEP example: I compile main.c to create the main object module, then I run tstpan.job to create the load module, and finally tstpan is the command executing the module. This follows pretty much the documentation available. Cheers, Rene FERLAND, Montreal P.S. -- tep.obj is the object module created by the PANEL command.

Other than the on-line help, I have not been able to find any documentation on watc full screen support. I trying to write a few test programs, but without some additional documentation, it is very slow going. Any ideas on where I may "documentation" on Watc. I do have the various files by Dave Edwards, but no real watc manual. Thank You Tom c

I am trying to learn/compile/test "C" programs using the watc compiler in music/sp. I am trying to find documentation/manuals on this software but without much luck. Any pointers in any direction would be appreciated. Thank You Tom c

Has anyone been able to locate the "full" MUSIC distribution files which include the programming languages etc.? Are there any contacts from McGill University or other sites, that are still able to assist? Cordially Patrick

After reading about MUSIC/SP I found out that it had an APL interpreter/compiler; but I couldn't find much information about its implementation, i.e. which subset of features are supported, etc other than it seems to be based on VS APL ( http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/apl/SH20-9065-0_VS_APL_Installation_Reference_Manual_Jan76.pdf ) Does anyone has more information, and/or could help me get MUSIC/SP running on linux, with networking, does VS APL or MUSIC/SP require a license? Thank you for reading.

Hello guys, Under hercules, it is possible config the producte to use TCP/IP? What must I add to the config file? Thanks Best regards