X-air Standard with rotax 618 engine
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Hey All. Recently I purchased an x-air Standard with a rotax 618 engine. I just wanted to ask, I’ve heard different stories about their reliability as opposed to the 582 engines that are common on these aircraft. I’ve heard that the 582 is fairly reliable. But I’ve heard differing opinions on the 618 engine. I know mine does not have a cylinder head temperature gauge, but does have a exhaust temperature gauge. The aircraft and engine only have 82 hours on them, however the whole thing is 24 years old. And at this time, I do not have the money or time to have the engine overhauled. So I would like to run on condition if possible. I believe this should be okay. But I just want to know if anybody else owns a similar aircraft and engine combination, if there are any problems I need to watch out for. I don’t use the oil injector, the person I bought the aircraft OFF removed it and told me I should premix the fuel. He also said it was a 50 to one ratio. So 200 mL for every 10 L of fuel. Although he told me to bump it up to 220 mL , for a little bit of extra protection. I did have the engine running once, but didn’t have it running very long. It sounded okay, and ran fine at idle and at reasonable rpm. But didn’t open it up to full power. Some people have told me that they need to be run wide-open. Others have told me that they can run to lean while climbing out and that causes them to burn out. I just would like to know the information about the engine and how to make it last as long as possible. I know of many people who have had 582s running on condition for over 1000 hours with great success. Hopefully the 618 can be just as reliable if you look after it right. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also, in general, any general things to look out for with the aircraft in general. As this is my first time owning an x-air. I have heard that they are extremely low maintenance. But anything to watch out For or anything that I should do to make the aircraft last as long as possible would be greatly appreciated.
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Voltage regulator on my x air hawk
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Hello all, Does anyone have an Amazon (preferably Canada) or OEM part number and where to source a new voltage regulator for my 2008 x air hawk Hanuman? Or something on amazon that is 6-wire and very similar to my existing original/OEM unit? Basically, the last few flights, my amperage sky rockets and pops the master 15 amp breaker. But after 15mins or so of flying, once everything gets nice and hot, the amperage goes back down to normal and everything goes back to normal. Some have told me it's likely the voltage regulator. Looking forward to hearing back from anyone who may assist. Thanks Justin
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X-air H and 912uls
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Has anyone tried putting a 912uls (100hp) rotax on a hanuman? I've got the possibility of acquiring a nice one, but I didn't know if anyone had used the 100hp 912 or only the 80hp.
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Excitement in India
https://www.ssbcrack.com/2024/03/microlight-aircraft-from-ota-gaya-crashed-in-bihar.html -- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message.
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Spare parts from counterfeit suppliers
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Hello X-Air people, could somebody on the Facebook page also duplicate this post so it gets some exposure. I have had a lot of enquiry recently from various X-Air owners regarding several new parts suppliers, mainly in India working in opposition to the factory. I have finally received full information about this from the X-Air factory and it follows... Can you please give me additional information about what X-Air is doing with the rogue parts supplier/s from India ? The Rogue suppliers are copy cats and have copied some of our old drawings or parts. We are not sure what they supply and what material they use. We have never tested them. There seems to be some confusion about who is supplying what, and on one of the Facebook websites it is saying that this rogue supplier is actually the X-Air factory itself selling as a third party. I would like to get this question answered please. Nobody else other than us make the genuine X-Air Parts. We don't have control over other websites who say so. Saying that the parts are made by X-Air is a scam done by the rogue suppliers. These guys don't spend time for R&D but just copy and use some cheaper raw material to make them. Hence we presume they have a lot of time to do such scams to promote their own material. Such scammers are on the increase these days in all fields, and they are able to mislead customers through involvement in MultiMedia. If the parts are coming from anybody except X-Air or published X-Air dealers then they are not genuine parts, they are counterfeit parts, and we share your same concerns about safety, compatibility and the materials they are using. -- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message.
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Pre buy inspection
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hi there i am about to make an offer on 2009 xair H with the Rotax 582 engine it has oboit 120 hours, the engine was overhauled 3 years ago(5-year overhaul) it has been in storage in a hanger and winterised for the last 2 and a half years.... What should i be on look out for during the pre-buy inspection? my concern is that it didn't fly much... what about the wing coverings? it has been hangered all its life should it still be rerplaced ? any advice is welcome !!
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Just saying hello
Greetings All. My name is Griff, I’m 29 years old, and I was born blind, and I am on the autism spectrum. Despite the obvious challenges, I have been flying for around five years. I am very interested in owning an ultralight, me and my dad have owned one before, although unfortunately, while he was flying it, it stalled during takeoff. This happened on the second flight that he took after we bought it. We are interested in either a X-Air Standard or a X-Air Hanuman. I would be interested in getting more information about the aircraft, although from what I’ve heard, I think it’s much better than the UltraLite we used to own. It’s much more forgiving. We used to have a flightstar 2 sc with a HKS 700 T engine, but it’s stall speed was very high. At around 31 kn. As opposed to the 20 to 23 kn of the X-Air Standard. I’ve also heard much less in regards to accident reports with the x-air. I have heard very few accidents with this plane. I’d love to hear from any owners, and I’d love to hear if any are for sale in Australia secondhand. I would also love to hear what the best engine choice is with either x-air model, or what experiences people have had with engines. And what maintenance looks like as well. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards. Griff PS. My dad has a pilots license. But he isn’t as good at technology as I am. And I thought I would ask here. Also, flying and aircraft are very important and therapeutic for me. So it is mostly for me that we got the aircraft, but he got the license.
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Value of X-air standard
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Greetings! I have located a "barn find" X-air standard built in the mid 2010's. It is out of registration and hasn't flown in several years. It is quite dirty but has been kept in a hangar that does not have a main door. It doesn't look too bad but would probably take a fair amount of inspection and lots of maintenance to put in flying condition and get registered. Could some of you chime in with what you think this might be worth and what to look out for? I am a member of EAA, AOPA, and the Recreational Aviation Foundation and served as an AOPA rep for quite a few years. Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide. Rol
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crash in the uk
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https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/mid-wales/welshpool/2023/06/14/two-people-in-hospital-after-microlight-crash-lands-in-field-near-welshpool/ -- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message.
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X-Air Hanuman in Canada
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Hello all, I'm interested in purchasing an X-Air Hanuman and registering it as an AULA in Canada. Appreciate any help in terms of who the distributor is. I've reached out to X-Air US and Raj Hamsa in India directly via their contact emails but haven't heard anything back. Thanks, Aman
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X-air H for sale
Due to recent medical conditions, I am selling my X-air H with 220A Jabiru 85hp. 489 TT engine and airframe. Radio and transponder. Strobes. Qualifies for light sport. $18,500. Bob, Ocala Fl
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X-Air H Brake cables
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I am still looking for a source for brake cables. Thanks, Bob N929XH
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interesting photo from an owner in Romania
This photo just came into my mailboxfrom an owner in Romania asking a few questions. I thought I would bring it to the group because it shows a couple of very inventive modifications. If you look at the radiator hose coming out at the bottom of the radiator you will see it goes down into the cabin and then another hose returns from the cabin. They must have set up some sort of internal cabin heating using a third radiator.... it must get very cold over there. There are some impressive looking vents on the doors and there is also a couple of ventilation inlets at the top of the windscreen just above what looks like a GPS unit which are interesting The tires are totally changed to standard, I'm not sure if if it is the same rooms on the rear but on the front looks like they have fitted some sort of scooter tire, a nice mudguard and the rear tires are definitely much larger. Also, if you zoom in really close it looks like the radiator is covered completely with Lexan on the right-hand side only with the left-hand side being open, yes it must be really cold over there..... Finally, the strobe on the tail has some sort of cowling which looks interesting. -- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed.this No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message.
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X-air H brake parts
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Just took delivery of N929XH after a 900 mile ferry flight. I have started going thru the plane and need the brake cable for the right brake. Also need the small tabs? at the bottom of the brake shoes. One has a section missing and I reversed it for now. Would appreciate any info. Thanks, Bob
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X-Air H Brake upgrade info
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Hey All, I recently bought a 2008 X - Air H. With original type shoes brakes. I was wanting Idea's about brake upgrade info. Thanks Todd Mooresboro, N,C,
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Analog Ammeter needle all of a sudden bounces
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Hello everyone once again, I changed my facet cube auxiliary electric fuel pump with a bravex auxiliary electric fuel pump. The specifications between the both are merely identical - my current bravex pump has a current draw of 1-2amps with 2-4psi output. After I installed it yesterday and went flying today, the ammeter inside my cockpit registers current draw of about 5-8amps give or take, but as soon as I switch the auxiliary pump on, the needle bounces back and forth like it's going crazy. No beakers pop/open but I'm confused as to why the ammeter needle is bouncing; it's bounces almost like one would simulate the same phenomenon by shaking the Ammeter, if it were to be disconnected, in your hands, sort of thing. For starters, I changed the facet pump thinking it was defective when it stopped working, but afterwards re-plumbing new fuel lines with a check valve and after Installing a new pump, I then realized the wire connector was the culprit of the pump stopping - the puno was fine but rather the wire and circuit of the auxiliary fuel pump had 2 sets of cheap plastic push-on connectors that were 15 years old and landing on rough grass field, probably exacerbated the connection to finally malfunctioning, amongst oxidization and humidity, and quality of connector, etc. Anyway today I went flying with the new bravex fuel pump, soon realizing the brand new bravex fuel pump stop working. After I landed I was surprised to find out if I got a defective new pump. I then chased the wires and circuit of the auxiliary fuel pump one more, to then realized I noticed yet another cheap push on connect. I moved the last cheap connector that was part of this circuit around, at which point the new bravex fuel pump states to work again. I will remove this last problematic connection and splice a straight through connection. Could my ammeter needle be bouncing abruptly because of this (last) poor connection in the auxiliary pump circuit, or could that be a coincidence and the ammeter needle bouncing in the dial be tied towards something else? If i don't turn on the newly installed pump, the needle doesn't bounce, but rather accurately measures total current in the entire electrical circuit of the plane. When I turned on the auxiliary pump with the engine off, the needle also did not bounce around like crazy. When I had the engine running more or less at idle, with the auxiliary pump on, the needle did not bounce around even then. However, once I applied full throttle and got off the ground with the auxiliary pump on, the needle then started bouncing around back and forth like crazy. I will be fixing the last connection issue tomorrow, but thought I'd reach out to you all for any advice. Maybe once I fix the last connection problem within the auxiliary pump circuit, will the ammeter needle stop acting this way? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you!
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A MUST watch video of a Hanuman rebuild owned by Brent Dunphy
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https://youtu.be/7Fe5gGEaIoQ Who can think of a mallet joke to finish their video ? After a long night at the bar, a man invites his friend to see his new apartment The friend notices a large gong against the wall and asks, "What's with the gong?" – "It's not a gong, it's a talking clock", he replies. He then picks up a mallet and hits the gong. From the other side of the wall they both hear: "Shut the hell up! It's three in the morning for God's sake!" -- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcomavionics Please note: because of the volume of e-mail we are now receiving our replies are done using voice recognition software in an effort to speed up the reply process. Sometimes the voice recognition program inserts silly words or doesn't actually do what it is meant to do. Occasionally these mistakes get through our quick proofreading of each e-mail sent, so please accept my apologies if the odd mistake gets through. Legal Notice: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended only to be read by the person(s) to whom it is addressed. No one is authorized to copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on this information for any purpose whatsoever. If this communication has been sent to you in error, please email the sender and delete the message. "Amateurs practice till they get it right; Professionals practice till they can’t get it wrong."
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Hanuman bungee
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I'm considering changing the bungees on my undercarriage, they seem a bit tired. I have seen some people replace them with gas shocks, which I would love to do, but don't know the details of what would be done. I haven't found any kits, and I'm not super familiar with the specs of shocks. I was told one fellow used the kind on dirt bikes, but nothing more specific than that. Has anyone swapped to shocks, and if so, what were the parts and how did you do it? Has anyone replaced the bungee cord? If so what kind of cord did you use and are there any tricks to it? (I know to wrap it with the weight off, but that's about it) Thanks! Tom
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replacement engine
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Keep an eye on Radial Motion. 3 cyl air cooled radial engine being made in Australia. Looks like a winner! Clive Cunningham K&M HD Motorcycles U2 5-9 Kingston Ave Richmond South Australia 5033 Ph +61 8 8234 1090 kmmotor@... kmmotorcycles.com.au
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Re : Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee
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Hello Group, on the issue of a suitable alternative to the Rotax 582 for the X-air, has anyone considered the MZ202 by Compact Radial Engines (now Fiate)? It is advertised as a 63 go bolt on replacement for the R582….. Fiate Aviation Fiate Aviation Fiate Aviation Co., Ltd. acquired Compact Radial Engines Inc. in Canada in 2017. CRE was formerly known as Konig-Moto found in Germany in 1927. Thank you for your comments Tom Dudet Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour iPhone Le vendredi, juillet 29, 2022, 6:30 AM, Michael Coates <mcoates@...> a écrit : Hello Hank, that is the million-dollar question..... There are really no viable alternates.... A lot of people mention the Hirth but in reality they just don't have the reliability and service record of the Rotax 582. The Jabiru 2.2 doesn't perform all that well on the original X-Air airframe which was always designed for the 582. I guess we will just have to look for electric ! Hank Optland wrote on 29/07/2022 2:10 pm: ★ What will replace the two-stroke Rotax motors (no longer made) in the X-Airs? Get Outlook for Android From: XAIR@groups.io <XAIR@groups.io> on behalf of Michael Coates <mcoates@...> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 1:58:00 PM To: XAIR@groups.io <XAIR@groups.io> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee They could have always done things differently in my opinion. The problem was the market also changed and tube and fabric aircraft were no longer The only option available to recreational flyers when composite aircraft started getting around. Added to this is now There are no longer Rotax two-stroke engines available and that makes it much harder to sell the standard models..... Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022 10:11 am: I wonder if the marketing ads and campaigns were better with the X Air - they may have sold a lot more aircraft. I've taken about 4 very experienced pilots wirh total flighr hours ranging from 1800-28,000hrs and all have said the same thing: the X Air comes across as a brittle 'paper airplane' but after flying it, is surprised with overall stability and engineering while keeping it in value packed design. From: XAIR@groups.io <XAIR@groups.io> on behalf of Michael Coates <mcoates@...> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 8:08:11 PM To: XAIR@groups.io <XAIR@groups.io> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee Hello Justin, yes I have also been sent photographs of the progress from the first day and he is doing a fantastic job. I have been holding off in posting the pictures in dribs and drabs and rather waiting until he has completely finished and then do a mass upload but you are more than welcome to send through anything that he has already sent you. It is really good to see the resources of X-Air owners and how they can approach things from a different perspective and make really significant improvements Justin Gregoris wrote on 29/07/2022 10:02 am: Totally off topic, but If I'm allowed - I'll send everyone a bunch of pictures of this gentlemen's (Brent) Hanuman. He purchased a 2009 X Air. Completely stripped the plane - literally dismantled 98% of it. New covering, new Jabiru motor. New everything. New, modified landing gear, big tundra-like STOL tires. 3 bladed prop, list goes on. Then he also got a custom door builder to increase cabin width to 49 inches by installing bubble doors without any cross members. Looks high-end. This airplane is by far the nicest looking X Air I have ever seen. Probably all input around 55,000$ CDN but I'm blown away how nice it is. Located in New Brunswick Canada. From: XAIR@groups.io <XAIR@groups.io> on behalf of Kevin <k-ryan@...> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:20:57 PM To: XAIR@groups.io <XAIR@groups.io> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Hanuman bungee I replaced mine with two 9044 bungees per side. One each was a bit soft, two worked just fine. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/shock_rings.php?clickkey=8478 -- With regards, Michael Coates AU +61 7 5522 0583 USA +1 213 984 1237 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012 Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012 PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2017 mailto:mcoates@... skype name: xcom
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