Suggestions for quickly setting accurate angles on the compound?
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I have a 10k (light 10), and I'd like to cut a few machine tapers (e.g. JT33) and I have a keyless chuck I'd like to repair after it's internal taper was messed up by a similarly bad arbor. In any case, I want to cut accurate angles, and I do not have a taper attachment. Tom Lipton has a great video series with a few options, but the best requires using a sine bar that's referencing a surface that's parallel with the compound travel, but the only possible surface on my compound is the machined T-slot for the tool post, and that's (at best) perpendicular (and I have doubts about how accurately it was made wrt the dovetails). Tom's video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krIG_IHLFyA Does anyone here have suggestions for doing this? Some ideas: (A) I could mount a parallel in a tool holder, indicate that to be parallel to the compound travel, *then* mount a sine bar to that reference and indicate the sine bar. That's more work than I'd really like to put in every time I do this, but at least it's non-destructive. (B) I have a mill & surface grinder - I could probably machine a flat on the side of the compound that's parallel with the dovetails. I don't recall how much material there is to remove there, though, and that would probably be on the "front" side, rather than the back (in order to avoid the gib screws), which would make it slightly more difficult to indicate. (C) ??? Maybe there's a casting kit or something for a new compound that has a more functional design? (D) I suppose I could fabricate a new compound, and re-use the screw, nut, and other hardware. (E) Maybe I could place some pin holes in the top of the compound at key locations, then pull the toolpost and set a sine bar + parallel against those... The challenge here I think is ensuring that they are aligned properly, since they're on the opposite side of the casting from the feature I'd need to indicate on the mill (the dovetails?) Anyway, I'd like to see how other folks have solved this. Thanks! --Rogan
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VFD location
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Esteemed group members, Any suggestions where to put the 3hp VFD for my 14.5" tool room lathe? I'm thinking that attaching it to the wall behind the lathe might be the cleanest install for me instead of figuring out where to mount it on the lathe. Any thoughts? Pros or cons as to where it should be. 220V outlet is surface mounted on the wall near the tailstock end of the lathe. Current plan is to mount the VFD on the wall and near the outlet, run armored cable to the lathe and transition to rigid conduit across the back of the lathe to the junction box where the motor wiring is located. Alternatively, I could mount the VFD to the wall near the headstock end and run surface wiring over to the outlet. Thanks, George H. Meinschein, P.E. Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC 150 Brittany Drive Freehold, NJ 07728 gmeinschein@... Cell#: 732-580-1736 Sent from Proton Mail Android -- -George M.
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9" South Bend Lathe for sale
9 inch South Bend Precision lathe, Model A, catalog # 644Y, 36 inch bed. Comes with a bunch of extras, chucks, plates, two sets of _new_ transposing gears. And some consumables. $900.00 - 978. seven four five. seven o eight eight
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milling adapter for sale
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FW: Baldor Motor and TECO drive combo for your lathe or other machine
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To the group: For someone that needs a good variable speed, reversable setup, I am offering a Baldor IDXM7006 inverter duty ½ HP motor and TECO Westinghouse L510-101-H1-U Variable Frequency Drive for sale. See attached pictures. The motor is 230/460V 3 phase, frame 56C, “explosion proof”, ball bearing, 1735RPM at 60Hz, made in USA and is used but excellent shape. There are minor scratches and scuffs on the paint, no dings or dents. This was used to run a small pump in a lab. The inverter is 110v input, ½ HP, again in excellent condition – I would say it looks new. I do not have the manual, but it is available online from numerous sources on the web. I purchased both of these for my employer, so I know their history of very light use. When they no longer were needed, I was able to save them from the junk pile. I was planning to use the combo in my shop but they have sat for a couple of years, and I need to reclaim some space. I am offering the combo to this group first for a price of $250. I am located in central NJ and would prefer to not have to ship, as the motor weighs 39 lbs, but will ship via UPS if you are willing to pay the actual cost which I think could be around $100 depending on distance. I’ll give first priority to local pickup, but if I get no takers on that in a few days, I will sell to the first person who is willing to pay the shipping. Thanks for looking and very best John
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Selling a SB 9" Lathe.
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Can I post a "SB 9" Lathe for sale" message in this group? Thanks, Ron
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Sizing Pictures
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At least on iPhone or iPad or Mac, sizing is built into the Mail App. Here on an iPhone I went to the photo, clicked on it and added it to an email. After adding an address and subject an up arrow appears on the upper right. Clicking on it a sizing screen opens The Jim B, -- Jim B
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Very Long Did Read and STILL way OT was Re: Way OT ... Re: [SouthBendLathe] 10K head stock cover
I lived in Fort Walton from '70-'82 on Bob Sikes Blvd. We may have passed each other on the road . I have/had family there, mom died in 2018, just a couple of estranged cousins now. . Very long, read it all because I spotted Eglin AFB in the middle On 7/2/2024 4:14 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote: That number doesn't ring any bells for me. I enlisted a couple years before the war in Vietnam ended, and after the POWs from the Hanoi Hilton were returned. I crewed an F-111D fighter for BGen. Robinson Reisner at Cannon AFB, NM., once as a very junior member of the team that launched him one fine day. Mid 1974? Crippled myself a bit that fall & winter and retrained to be a still photographer in the middle of 1975. Tech school at Lowry AFB, CO., then Eglin AFB still a pretty junior airman for a couple of years where I met MGen. Michael Collins, and worked with Col. George E. (Bud) Day, also for a short time. I was there for a couple more years. Made Senior Airman, instead of Sergeant as a member of the 2nd group to not make Sgt when the rank of SrA was introduced. In May 78 I moved to Nellis AFB, NV, and in June photographed my 2nd aircraft accident. By August I was teaching my coworkers how to do crash & accident photos. I probably met Capt. Sullenberger while I was there, as I was one of the photographers for the Red Flag accident investigation he mentioned in his book. Captain Mark Postai was married to one of my former coworkers there when he died. She'd been one of my trainers there as a young SrA., then got out, became a RN, and married Mark. I spent 5 years there. A couple years in Turkey, 1983-85. Worked in the hanger Francis Gary Powers had flown out of when he was shot down over The USSR in 1960. Ran the base photo lab, as I'd been promoted to TSgt shortly after I arrived. And got chained to a desk. When my 2 years there were up I moved to Eglin AFB again, once again in a new career field, SATCOM, after schools at Keesler AFB, MS, and Ft. Gordon, GA. Only got to stay 6 months, due to my unit closing. They'd sent the terminal I was supposed to work on to Thule AS, Greenland. Offered to let me go there, remote for a year. Turkey was considered a remote tour, too. So I turned it down. Wound up back in Turkey again, this time at Pirinclic AB, near Diyarbakir, Turkey, for a year. Left there in the fall of 87, for Sumter, SC, and Shaw AFB. There for four years. Counting being deployed to Riyadh Saudi Arabia for Desert Shield/Desert Storm. From Shaw to Germany, very late in 1991, to Wiesbaden, and Lindsey AS, in an 19th Century Cavalry base. And 3? other bases before I left Germany in early 1996, to Tinker AFB, OK, and the OKC metro... Been here 28 years now. Longer than I was in the Air Force... Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 11:33:51 AM CDT, jonwoellhaf <jonwoellhaf@...> wrote: Sgt. Meyers, did you have anything to do with 99125 in the Air Force? I was at Lowry and Fiji and your name seems familiar to me. Former SSgt Woellhaf On 07/02/2024 10:03 AM MDT Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote: That's cheating, but it can work if his camera doesn't make absurdly large files. My new phone camera can do a 50megapixel file, supposedly... My email provider allows 25mb files. This group is, IIRC, one of the free groups. Was 1gb total storage. Not sure if they've increased that. But 50mpx files would fill it up fast! YMMV, of course. :) Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I'v
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TLDR and STILL way OT was Re: Way OT ... Re: [SouthBendLathe] 10K head stock cover
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That number doesn't ring any bells for me. I enlisted a couple years before the war in Vietnam ended, and after the POWs from the Hanoi Hilton were returned. I crewed an F-111D fighter for BGen. Robinson Reisner at Cannon AFB, NM., once as a very junior member of the team that launched him one fine day. Mid 1974? Crippled myself a bit that fall & winter and retrained to be a still photographer in the middle of 1975. Tech school at Lowry AFB, CO., then Eglin AFB still a pretty junior airman for a couple of years where I met MGen. Michael Collins, and worked with Col. George E. (Bud) Day, also for a short time. I was there for a couple more years. Made Senior Airman, instead of Sergeant as a member of the 2nd group to not make Sgt when the rank of SrA was introduced. In May 78 I moved to Nellis AFB, NV, and in June photographed my 2nd aircraft accident. By August I was teaching my coworkers how to do crash & accident photos. I probably met Capt. Sullenberger while I was there, as I was one of the photographers for the Red Flag accident investigation he mentioned in his book. Captain Mark Postai was married to one of my former coworkers there when he died. She'd been one of my trainers there as a young SrA., then got out, became a RN, and married Mark. I spent 5 years there. A couple years in Turkey, 1983-85. Worked in the hanger Francis Gary Powers had flown out of when he was shot down over The USSR in 1960. Ran the base photo lab, as I'd been promoted to TSgt shortly after I arrived. And got chained to a desk. When my 2 years there were up I moved to Eglin AFB again, once again in a new career field, SATCOM, after schools at Keesler AFB, MS, and Ft. Gordon, GA. Only got to stay 6 months, due to my unit closing. They'd sent the terminal I was supposed to work on to Thule AS, Greenland. Offered to let me go there, remote for a year. Turkey was considered a remote tour, too. So I turned it down. Wound up back in Turkey again, this time at Pirinclic AB, near Diyarbakir, Turkey, for a year. Left there in the fall of 87, for Sumter, SC, and Shaw AFB. There for four years. Counting being deployed to Riyadh Saudi Arabia for Desert Shield/Desert Storm. From Shaw to Germany, very late in 1991, to Wiesbaden, and Lindsey AS, in an 19th Century Cavalry base. And 3? other bases before I left Germany in early 1996, to Tinker AFB, OK, and the OKC metro... Been here 28 years now. Longer than I was in the Air Force... Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 11:33:51 AM CDT, jonwoellhaf <jonwoellhaf@...> wrote: Sgt. Meyers, did you have anything to do with 99125 in the Air Force? I was at Lowry and Fiji and your name seems familiar to me. Former SSgt Woellhaf On 07/02/2024 10:03 AM MDT Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote: That's cheating, but it can work if his camera doesn't make absurdly large files. My new phone camera can do a 50megapixel file, supposedly... My email provider allows 25mb files. This group is, IIRC, one of the free groups. Was 1gb total storage. Not sure if they've increased that. But 50mpx files would fill it up fast! YMMV, of course. :) Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 10:18:36 AM CDT, Jim_B <jim@...> wrote: Just attach the photo to your reply. It will show up in the message. Jim B, On Jul 2, 2024, at 1:47 AM, Bill
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South Bend 10 K Headstock Cover
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Any ideas where to locate a headstock cover for an 80s vintage 10K other than eBay would be great. That seems to be the only missing part on this new purchase of mine. thanks in advance Dave
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10K head stock cover
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Question: is it the belt cover on a bench model, horizontal drive? If so, I have that particular cover with the lubrication chart intact. If you would like a photo please email me or explain (if you know) how i can post the photos. Thanks Ray
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Way OT ... Re: [SouthBendLathe] 10K head stock cover
Sgt. Meyers, did you have anything to do with 99125 in the Air Force? I was at Lowry and Fiji and your name seems familiar to me. Former SSgt Woellhaf On 07/02/2024 10:03 AM MDT Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote: That's cheating, but it can work if his camera doesn't make absurdly large files. My new phone camera can do a 50megapixel file, supposedly... My email provider allows 25mb files. This group is, IIRC, one of the free groups. Was 1gb total storage. Not sure if they've increased that. But 50mpx files would fill it up fast! YMMV, of course. :) Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 10:18:36 AM CDT, Jim_B <jim@...> wrote: Just attach the photo to your reply. It will show up in the message. Jim B, On Jul 2, 2024, at 1:47 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote: Go to the group.io website, and look at your groups. If you have membership in more than one, pick southbendlathe, and on a Windows computer and most of the browsers out there, on the left side of the page you'll find "Photos" down towards the bottom of the page. Click on it. Near the top of the Photos page, you'll see a button that says "New Album" and click on that. Create an album, and follow the prompts. Then upload a photo to that album, and copy the link to send it to the guy who needs the photo, in a message on the group, or in a personal email. Everyone on the group who gets all email will get a notification, IIRC, that the album has been created, and a photo posted. You can delete the photo, and/or album once you're done, if you want. HTH! Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. SEMPER GUMBY! Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome. Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 11:19:03 PM CDT, Ray De Jong via groups.io <dejongray@...> wrote: Question: is it the belt cover on a bench model, horizontal drive? If so, I have that particular cover with the lubrication chart intact. If you would like a photo please email me or explain (if you know) how i can post the photos. Thanks Ray -- Jim B
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10k metric parts
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Greetings, a number of years ago I bought my first shop machine, a SB 10k but didn’t notice at the auction it was metric. I think it came from a school and was in pristine condition. I ended up buying an imperial quick change gearbox, leadscrew and half nuts, as I had no interest in metric. I’ve used the large dial crossfeed and compound feed in metric but it’s painful to have to sneak up on diameters. Would there be any interest in these metric parts? Thx, al.
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Large Dial option
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some of ya folks may be interested in these , not mine I just stumbled on them https://www.ebay.com/itm/126492663906? animal
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10K end gear set up
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I’m picking up a 1980s vintage 10k with quick change. The end gears have been set up for metric. Is there a schematic for setting it up standard setting again. I have gears that came with it but I’m not sure which to use. thanks Dave
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SB Heavy 10 parts for sale
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My girlfriend's dad bought a lathe to restore. He thought it was a 10L. In my desire to score brownie points with him, i bought a bunch of parts to help him with his project. Turns out his lathe was a 9a. So, now, I have a number of parts that I cannot use. Does anybody needs parts for a Heavy 10? I will post pictures and a link in the morning because I need light to shoot some photos. I don't need a lot of money for them, so don't worry about the pricing. I only have about 100 bucks into all of them and I just want to clear out space. Also, I am not a dealer so there is no profit motivation. They all fit in a small carboard box weighing maybe 20-30 pounds. Shipping won't be a big expense, either. Let me know if you have any questions Best Regards, Andrei mailto:calciu1@...
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Heavy 10 Milling Attachment for sale
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I have a Heavy 10 milling attachment I don't use. It is in excellent condition maybe used a couple of times. If I remember correctly the South Bend sticker is still on it. I have only a vague idea of what it is worth so if interested let me know.
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Anyone in the Group a Degreed Metallurgist?
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I am working on a project and need some advice on welding heat treated materials. Ask_derrick@...
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quick change gearbox questions
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Periodic maintenance begets upgrades, as they do. I've had my 1926 9" workshop(?) model B 4 foot for about eight years, and have been upgrading things as needed. I'm thinking that I might take the quick change gearbox plunge. I'm not restoring the lathe, so originality isn't a concern - only compatibility and function. Which QC boxes fit this lathe? I think that the ones up through the 30s fit, but I'm unsure. I looked for a cross-referance/interchange chart for the different generations & models; looked at catalogs, forums, advertisements and anything even remotely related to what parts from later lathes can be fitted to the 20s-era ones. I never use the last foot of lathe bed, so could get by with shortening the lead screw if I can't find the appropriate one. Any guidance is appreciated. If you have one for sale, let me know. I"m fine if it needs to be cleaned or refurbished. I enjoy doing it. Neil In case I'm mis-labeling my lathe, here are photos from the last time it was clean - when I built the table for it in 2017. The table is more colorful now, but too dirty & cluttered to get good photos.
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Insert Holder Alloy
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Anyone happen to know the alloy most likely to be used for carbide insert tool holders? My guess is 4140. I have four that I need to mill down to work in an AXA holder. They test at 45 HRC. Thinking about annealing them before milling and then heat treating again, so I would like specs to use.
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